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jacks
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: most venomous Reply with quote

I was wondering what snakes venom is the most potent to humans.and is it an elapid viper ect. all the books and websites give me different ansers.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drop for drop it is the inland taipan (Oxyuranus microlepidotus), which has a venom more toxic than any other land snake or even the sea snakes.
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jacks
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks doc Smile I read over your site and found it there Rolling Eyes Wink Embarassed but I was talking to another herpatolagist and he said the hook nosed sea snake was the most venomous of all. oh by the way I was just wondering what your title was?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hook nosed myth was due to a fundamental error in a book called 'Snakes in question'. In there, all the toxicity testing results were lumped in together, regardless of the mode of testing (e.g. subcutaneous vs. intramuscular vs intravenous vs intraperitoneal). As the mode can influence the relative number, venoms can only be compared within a mode. Otherwise, its apples and rocks.

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Hawkeye
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....and its the most lethal snakes to mice not necessarily humans ...but I ain't gonna start that story again Laughing Laughing

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jacks
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkeye wrote:
.....and its the most lethal snakes to mice not necessarily humans ...but I ain't gonna start that story again Laughing Laughing

Cheers Glen


which one the inland taipan orthe hook nose sea snake Question
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To work out how toxic a snake (or any other venomous animal) is, they conduct a what is called an LD50 test. LD50 = Lethal Dose 50%. So basically, it's the amount of venom that will kill 50% of the group animals injected.

http://www.venomdoc.com/LD50/LD50men.html - Read that.

So for the sub-cutaneous LD50 test, if you were to inject 50 rats with .025mg/kg of venom, approximately 50% of them will die.

Different animals react differently to venom, so what might be really deadly to a lab rat or mouse, might not be too bad for a human...or vice versa. There are a lot of other variables too.

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Richiew84
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought the fierce snake that was most venomous ..



Was watching top 10 venomous snakes with Steve Irwin and the top 1 was the Fierce snake... and the crazy dude let it lick him on the face : Shocked

Anyways ya can correct me if im wrong, which most probably i will be Wink


Have you ever met Steve Irwin Bryan ?

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Alexahnder
Homalopsidae


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fierce Snake is just another name for the Inland Taipan
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Richiew84
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexahnder wrote:
Fierce Snake is just another name for the Inland Taipan


Ok thanks for that Smile, ive learnt something new tonight Wink
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